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<div>== Approved Document P: Electrical safety - dwellings (2006 edition) ==<br />
published: 15 March 2006 <br />
ISBN: 978 1 85946 225 6<br />
Price: £15 [[http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/BR_PDF_ADP_2006.pdf free .pdf download]]<br />
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The 'Approved Document' ie the official chapter and verse can currently be downloaded in .pdf form from [[http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/BR_PDF_ADP_2006.pdf www.communities.gov.uk]] (which is apparently what the Office of the Fat Controller is called these days)<br />
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[[http://www.iee.org/Publish/WireRegs/PartP.cfm Information from IEEE ]] <br />
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==Further Information Links==<br />
Part P: How should it work?<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/5c32eff472792093/7fa9f52172719177?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=1#7fa9f52172719177<br />
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Part-P Inspection - How does it work?<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/7df0301b789675da/26f9b182c9c08521?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=2#26f9b182c9c08521<br />
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Electrics: How much can I legally do myself?<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/811fd015be2dbb4c/b969bde719dd841e?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=54#b969bde719dd841e<br />
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Part P, the practical summary:<br />
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http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/7e04776220d31416/9ffc2cd75118cddf?hl=en#9ffc2cd75118cddf<br />
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==Opinion & Debate on Part P==<br />
Part P has met with significant controversy. The following are discussions of some of its issues.<br />
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U need 2 know Part P:<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/cee0229d33747d61/2cb1e22c4f0afd34?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=3#2cb1e22c4f0afd34<br />
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Part P the reality:<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/f0ba11b72ada8b62/0d660f8a2023afc2?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=4#0d660f8a2023afc2<br />
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ODPM admits Part P consultation flawed:<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/baea90c563667ee0/50302a650e1cde91?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=6#50302a650e1cde91<br />
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Part P new wiring colours -more obfuscation:<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/dc1737531d663918/23a4c82608ebf7e9?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=8#23a4c82608ebf7e9<br />
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Just a thought about Part P...<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/1ad3f2588a97f897/ede5c4cf4ac37e01?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=9#ede5c4cf4ac37e01<br />
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Sinister censorship caused by Part P:<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/1de39cfbfb964adb/731a5a4e81aecc84?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=12#731a5a4e81aecc84<br />
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Part P and Dishwashers:<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/52f59d577d6e7f61/7c698bf5005e574f?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=15#7c698bf5005e574f<br />
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How does Part P help?<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/8ae6c2f3eeda688d/983ad5264eebbee6?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=16#983ad5264eebbee6<br />
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Part P over and out ...<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/3759ef85f2f1104e/972dace0490f9b61?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=17#972dace0490f9b61<br />
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Part P (again):<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/a15352ed28e43a4e/0df636c321b4e279?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=19#0df636c321b4e279<br />
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Part P Scenario:<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/eaadeb86420f429c/d49ff267d20657fe?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=30#d49ff267d20657fe<br />
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Part P inspections:<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/84dcd165d59428fd/2554e30f8dd6555d?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=38#2554e30f8dd6555d<br />
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Part P Police!<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/fb352d2c2a5c5e4e/9296408fe3a27aac?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=39#9296408fe3a27aac<br />
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Proposed Part P Building Regulations (Electrical Wiring):<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/b78bf7a82c9168da/dd31d2318894943b?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=41#dd31d2318894943b<br />
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Forthcoming Building Regulations on electrical work (Part P):<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/e7ff5bff622ec776/8bac0ee55c06a2d7?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=42#8bac0ee55c06a2d7<br />
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Electrical Building regulations (Part P) - What news?<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/149a3487457985a4/e33c99f4b6d22e58?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=50#e33c99f4b6d22e58<br />
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Part P and new rings:<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/1aa196e77d27cd2/1d6685d9c942ae28?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=53#1d6685d9c942ae28<br />
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Electrical earthing:<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/c1701311ccf6703f/0bed9b8d1c04c3d4?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=55#0bed9b8d1c04c3d4<br />
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Part Q?? Building Regulations:<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/d47114d3af5a6c1e/6c9713ff27a89239?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=57#6c9713ff27a89239<br />
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Electrical qualifications:<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/78c8f32f8485b85f/6a4294f68f20f4ee?q=%22N.+Thornton%22+OR+%22bigcat@meeow.co.uk%22&rnum=4#6a4294f68f20f4ee<br />
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Why Part P has no effect:<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/0bbfc2b949400bf9/772c7d9b259f1bbb#772c7d9b259f1bbb<br />
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Unqualified but part p compliant:<br />
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http://supplychain.org.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4<br />
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Numbers and credibility:<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/5ba47cafb3b2a46c/731e2ee8b2a724b5#731e2ee8b2a724b5<br />
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Part P summary:<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/7ef9dc0722dd66ca/1aff299de33f0ad1?hl=en#1aff299de33f0ad1<br />
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Part P, safety and statistics:<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/2fc24a6aa9cc3183/759fba30937e55bc?hl=en#759fba30937e55bc<br />
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Part P, Mike's take:<br />
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http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.d-i-y/msg/faebedb0afce043b<br />
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Part P, a tax on safety:<br />
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http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.d-i-y/msg/0c079d1db059dfd0<br />
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[[Category:Electrical]]</div>80.1.80.33https://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Part_P_-_Discussion&diff=1722Part P - Discussion2006-12-22T19:08:21Z<p>80.1.80.33: added category heading</p>
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<div>==Part P==<br />
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== Approved Document P: Electrical safety - dwellings (2006 edition) ==<br />
published: 15 March 2006 <br />
ISBN: 978 1 85946 225 6<br />
Price: £15 [[http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/BR_PDF_ADP_2006.pdf free .pdf download]]<br />
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The 'Approved Document' ie the official chapter and verse can currently be downloaded in .pdf form from [[http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/BR_PDF_ADP_2006.pdf www.communities.gov.uk]] (which is apparently what the Office of the Fat Controller is called these days)<br />
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[[http://www.iee.org/Publish/WireRegs/PartP.cfm Information from IEEE ]] <br />
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Part P: How should it work?<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/5c32eff472792093/7fa9f52172719177?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=1#7fa9f52172719177<br />
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Part-P Inspection - How does it work?<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/7df0301b789675da/26f9b182c9c08521?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=2#26f9b182c9c08521<br />
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==Opinion & Debate re Part P==<br />
U need 2 know Part P<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/cee0229d33747d61/2cb1e22c4f0afd34?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=3#2cb1e22c4f0afd34<br />
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Part P the reality.<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/f0ba11b72ada8b62/0d660f8a2023afc2?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=4#0d660f8a2023afc2<br />
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ODPM admits Part P consultation flawed<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/baea90c563667ee0/50302a650e1cde91?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=6#50302a650e1cde91<br />
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Part P new wiring colours -more obfuscation<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/dc1737531d663918/23a4c82608ebf7e9?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=8#23a4c82608ebf7e9<br />
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Just a thought about Part P...<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/1ad3f2588a97f897/ede5c4cf4ac37e01?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=9#ede5c4cf4ac37e01<br />
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Sinister censorship caused by Part P<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/1de39cfbfb964adb/731a5a4e81aecc84?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=12#731a5a4e81aecc84<br />
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Part P and Dishwashers<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/52f59d577d6e7f61/7c698bf5005e574f?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=15#7c698bf5005e574f<br />
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How does Part P help?<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/8ae6c2f3eeda688d/983ad5264eebbee6?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=16#983ad5264eebbee6<br />
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Part P over and out ...<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/3759ef85f2f1104e/972dace0490f9b61?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=17#972dace0490f9b61<br />
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Part P (again)<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/a15352ed28e43a4e/0df636c321b4e279?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=19#0df636c321b4e279<br />
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Part P Scenario<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/eaadeb86420f429c/d49ff267d20657fe?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=30#d49ff267d20657fe<br />
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Part P inspections<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/84dcd165d59428fd/2554e30f8dd6555d?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=38#2554e30f8dd6555d<br />
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Part P Police!<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/fb352d2c2a5c5e4e/9296408fe3a27aac?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=39#9296408fe3a27aac<br />
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Proposed Part P Building Regulations (Electrical Wiring)<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/b78bf7a82c9168da/dd31d2318894943b?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=41#dd31d2318894943b<br />
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Forthcoming Building Regulations on electrical work (Part P)<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/e7ff5bff622ec776/8bac0ee55c06a2d7?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=42#8bac0ee55c06a2d7<br />
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Electrical Building regulations (Part P) - What news?<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/149a3487457985a4/e33c99f4b6d22e58?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=50#e33c99f4b6d22e58<br />
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Part P and new rings<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/1aa196e77d27cd2/1d6685d9c942ae28?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=53#1d6685d9c942ae28<br />
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Electrics: How much can I legally do myself?<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/811fd015be2dbb4c/b969bde719dd841e?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=54#b969bde719dd841e<br />
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Electrical earthing<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/c1701311ccf6703f/0bed9b8d1c04c3d4?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=55#0bed9b8d1c04c3d4<br />
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Part Q?? Building Regulations<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/d47114d3af5a6c1e/6c9713ff27a89239?q=%22part+p%22&rnum=57#6c9713ff27a89239<br />
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Electrical qualifications:<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/78c8f32f8485b85f/6a4294f68f20f4ee?q=%22N.+Thornton%22+OR+%22bigcat@meeow.co.uk%22&rnum=4#6a4294f68f20f4ee<br />
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Why Part P has no effect:<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/0bbfc2b949400bf9/772c7d9b259f1bbb#772c7d9b259f1bbb<br />
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Unqualified but part p compliant:<br />
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http://supplychain.org.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4<br />
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Numbers and credibility:<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/5ba47cafb3b2a46c/731e2ee8b2a724b5#731e2ee8b2a724b5<br />
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Part p summary:<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/7ef9dc0722dd66ca/1aff299de33f0ad1?hl=en#1aff299de33f0ad1<br />
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Part P, safety and statistics:<br />
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/2fc24a6aa9cc3183/759fba30937e55bc?hl=en#759fba30937e55bc<br />
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Part P, the practical summary:<br />
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http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.d-i-y/browse_frm/thread/7e04776220d31416/9ffc2cd75118cddf?hl=en#9ffc2cd75118cddf<br />
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Part P, Mike's take:<br />
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http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.d-i-y/msg/faebedb0afce043b<br />
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Part P, a tax on safety:<br />
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http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.d-i-y/msg/0c079d1db059dfd0</div>80.1.80.33https://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Talk:Routing&diff=1721Talk:Routing2006-12-22T18:43:21Z<p>80.1.80.33: Disambiguation proposed</p>
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<div>May I suggest moving this article to 'Network Routing' and making 'Routing' a disambiguation page with links to<br />
network routing<br />
cable routing<br />
wood routing</div>80.1.80.33https://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Talk:Washing_Machine_Smells&diff=1720Talk:Washing Machine Smells2006-12-22T18:32:20Z<p>80.1.80.33: </p>
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<div>May I suggest renamimg this article something like "Washing Machine Cleaning" (or "Cleaning Washing Machines") since it's only tangentially about smells. (If there were an article like "what to do about X" and entry for X == "washing machine smells" would be a good place to link to this.)<br />
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--[[User:John Stumbles|John Stumbles]] 14:12, 21 December 2006 (GMT)<br />
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== Smells central or not? ==<br />
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I'm not understanding why you say its only tangentially about WM smells. Its normally smells that prompt people to look for help and realise their machine isnt as nice and clean as it appears.<br />
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OK suppose you had an article on repairing Central Heating Boilers: should it be called something like "Boiler Repairs" or "Boiler Not Working"? --[[User:John Stumbles|John Stumbles]] 22:02, 21 December 2006 (GMT)<br />
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The difference I'm seeing is that when people have whiffs they dont even realise the machine needs fixing. They dont know if theyre using the wrong powder, wrong wash cycle, the machines gone wrong, theyve got a medical problem, or what. So theyre frequently not interested in looking at 'washing machine repairs.'<br />
The other thing is I titled it to help people with the problem get to the description of the solution as quickly and easily as poss. I dont see that as wrong.<br />
If we have a WM repair section later, it could include a link to this smells article.<br />
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Fair enough I see what your intention is, though as long as the article contains the words 'washing machine smells' a user searching for that string should find it. (However a user searching for 'washing machine odours' or 'washing machine problems' won't, so you'd want to include those words in the text as well, anyway.) Whilst we have relatively few articles users might find the article by title, but as the wiki grows people will probably rely mainly on the search function. --[[User:John Stumbles|John Stumbles]] 16:27, 22 December 2006 (GMT)<br />
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Good point, yes. May add the odd keyword then.<br />
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I guess in the future the article would become part of the Appliance repair category, or something like that.</div>80.1.80.33