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==When should I use one?==
 
==When should I use one?==
When you need to reduce water vapour produced by showers, cooking or in bedrooms.  
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When you need to reduce [[water]] vapour produced by [[showers]], cooking or in bedrooms.  
  
When damp is bad enough that it will take a while for the house to dry, and mould would present a health risk in the meantime.  
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When damp is bad enough that it will take a while for the house to dry, and [[Mould Basics|mould]] would present a health risk in the meantime.  
  
 
When other practical measures have failed, or it is known they will not work.  
 
When other practical measures have failed, or it is known they will not work.  
  
When damp is severe.  
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When damp is severe.
  
In preference to external venting fans when the fresh air is not required. Fans have a higher total cost of ownership than a dehumidifier, due to throwing heat out of the building.  
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In preference to external venting fans when the fresh air is not required. Fans have a higher total cost of ownership than a dehumidifier, due to throwing [[heating|heat]] out of the building.  
  
 
Deuhmidifiers are the standard method to dry a house after a flood
 
Deuhmidifiers are the standard method to dry a house after a flood
  
Dehumidifiers combat condensation, mould & rot. In most cases these are better tackled by sorting out the cause of the problem, but a minority of causes are intractable or impractical to resolve, and a dehumidifier can dramatically improve the situation.
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Dehumidifiers combat condensation, [[Mould Basics|mould]] & [[Wood Rot|rot]]. In most cases these are better tackled by sorting out the cause of the problem, but a minority of causes are intractable or impractical to resolve, and a dehumidifier can dramatically improve the situation.
  
 
A dehumidifier is a simple way to make damp cellars habitable.
 
A dehumidifier is a simple way to make damp cellars habitable.
  
Dehumidifiers are sometimes used for drying timber. This can be of use for species such as holly, which require quick drying. It can also be of use for drying large quantities of timber under cover.
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Dehumidifiers are sometimes used for drying [[timber basics|timber]]. This can be of use for species such as [[holly]], which require quick drying. It can also be of use for drying large quantities of timber under cover.
  
  
 
==Which model should I choose? ==
 
==Which model should I choose? ==
A standard compressor based unit is good for most tasks. For use in cold locations a desiccant wheel unit is needed, as compressor dehumidifiers are ineffective below about 12 deg C. Do not use the £5 units that are simply boxes of lime chips, these have so little effect as to be pointless.
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A standard compressor based unit is good for most tasks. For use in [[heating|cold]] locations a desiccant wheel unit is needed, as compressor dehumidifiers are ineffective below about 12 deg C. Do not use the £5 units that are simply boxes of lime chips, these have so little effect as to be pointless.
  
For small and medium houses where damp is not severe, the smaller 200w models extract enough water. Note that a dehumidifier's water extraction rate is normally specified under different conditions than it sees in its end use, and real world extraction rate can be much less than specs indicate.
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For small and medium houses where damp is not severe, the smaller 200w models normally extract enough [[water]]. Note that a dehumidifier's water extraction rate is normally specified under different conditions than it sees in its end use, and real world extraction rate can be much less than specs indicate.
  
A humidistat is important, otherwise the RH is uncontrolled. This can result in woodwork warping, wasted electricity, and no ability to respond to the changing vapour load of cooking, shower use & occupancy. Humidistatic units cost more than the cheapest dehumidifiers, but this feature is a safeguard to avoid wood damage.  
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A humidistat is important, otherwise the RH is uncontrolled. This can result in [[Wood Articles|woodwork]] warping, [[Save Energy & Money|wasted electricity]], and no ability to respond to the changing vapour load of cooking, [[showers|shower]] use & occupancy. Humidistatic units cost more than the cheapest dehumidifiers, but this feature is a safeguard to avoid wood damage.  
  
A mouldproof water tank is a good idea. Older units may lack this feature, and some types of mould can pose a health problem.  
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A mouldproof water tank is a good idea. Older units may lack this feature, and some types of [[Mould Basics|mould]] can pose a health problem.  
  
The ability to connect a continuous drain hose occasionally gets used, so this facility is a minor plus point.  
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The ability to connect a continuous drain hose occasionally gets used, so this facility is a minor plus point even if you don't plan to use it initially.
  
 
Units with water tanks under a gallon are best avoided, as they require unnecessarily frequent emptying. A gallon tank should fill in anything from 1 day in severe damp to several days when used to dry a shower room.
 
Units with water tanks under a gallon are best avoided, as they require unnecessarily frequent emptying. A gallon tank should fill in anything from 1 day in severe damp to several days when used to dry a shower room.
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If using it to reduce overall house RH, set it to reduce RH slowly and gradually. Wood dries out slowly, and quick air RH reduction would cause a humidity gradient between the inside and outside of all woodwork. This can cause woodwork warping & cracking.  
 
If using it to reduce overall house RH, set it to reduce RH slowly and gradually. Wood dries out slowly, and quick air RH reduction would cause a humidity gradient between the inside and outside of all woodwork. This can cause woodwork warping & cracking.  
  
If using it to dry out shower rooms, set it so it just fails to come on during dry conditions in the room. An increase in RH should trigger it, and it will keep going until RH is back down to normal dry level.
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If using it to dry out [[showers|shower]] rooms, set it so it just fails to come on during dry conditions in the room. An increase in RH should trigger it, and it will keep going until RH is back down to a normal dry level.
  
If using it to dry the whole house, its best to put it in the middle of the house to minimise the distance of any location from the unit, and thus maximise effectiveness and minimise RH variation.
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If using it to dry the whole house, its best to put it in the middle of the house to minimise the distance of any location from the unit, and thus maximise effectiveness and reduce RH variation.
  
If drying a very damp house, the use of large fans can increase air circulation and evaporation, and thus improve extraction rates.
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If drying a very damp house, the use of large fans can increase air circulation and evaporation, and thus improve extraction rates. Severely damp buildings benefit from use of a larger 400w model.
  
  
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At time of writing, basic non humidistatic units go for around £100, and humidistatic units for around £150. Second hand units are much cheaper when available, but many are not humidistatic. Desiccant wheel units are much more expensive, despite being simpler.  
 
At time of writing, basic non humidistatic units go for around £100, and humidistatic units for around £150. Second hand units are much cheaper when available, but many are not humidistatic. Desiccant wheel units are much more expensive, despite being simpler.  
  
There is no fitting cost, just plug it in.  
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There's no fitting cost, just plug it in.  
  
Run cost depends on machine rating and amount of use. During summer the unit can be switched off and ventilation used instead, and during winter any electricity used will become heat for the house. A typical unit might use 200w, and when used to dry a shower room be used for an hour a day. This is 0.2kWh a day, or approx 2p. A 200w dehumidifier running continuously day and night in a severely damp house would use around 40p a day, and release that electrical energy as heat into the house. Heat is also given up by the water vapour as it condenses, so the heat output is actually greater than the energy consumed. Total heat production is small, but the 200w is not wasted.  
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Run cost depends on machine rating and amount of use. During summer the unit can be switched off and external ventilation used instead, and during winter any electricity used will become heat for the house. A typical unit might use 200w, and when used to dry a shower room be used for an hour a day. This is 0.2kWh a day, or approx 2p. A 200w dehumidifier running continuously day and night in a severely damp house would use around 40p a day, and release that electrical energy as heat into the house. Heat is also given up by the [[water]] vapour as it condenses, so the heat output is actually greater than the energy consumed. Total heat production is small, but the 200w is not wasted.
  
When using electric heating, the dh adds no run cost at all, as all its electricity becomes heat. With economy 7 type tariffs the dehumidifier can be set to run only at low tariff times with a timer.
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When using electric heating, the dh adds no run cost at all, as all its electricity becomes heat. With economy 7 type tariffs the dehumidifier can be set to run only at low tariff times using a timer.
  
When using gas heating, only part of the dh run cost is offset by reduced gas consumption, since gas heat costs less per unit than electricity.
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When using gas heating, only part of the dh run cost is offset by reduced gas consumption, since electric heat costs more per unit than gas derived heat.
  
A dehumidifier is cheaper than an extractor fan because a fan throws a fair amount of heated air outside, costing higher heating bills.
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A dehumidifier is cheaper than an extractor fan because a fan throws a fair amount of heated air outside, costing higher [[heating]] bills.
  
 
Dessicant wheel dehumidifiers have in the region of twice the run cost of comparable compressor units.  
 
Dessicant wheel dehumidifiers have in the region of twice the run cost of comparable compressor units.  
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==Are there any cheaper options?==
 
==Are there any cheaper options?==
 
===Fan===
 
===Fan===
To dry a localised spot of dampness caused by a leaking pipe etc, a desk fan may be used instead. The air movement causes much increased evaporation rate, and normally a house will handle the extra airborne water load without incident. Air movement also discourages mould growth while the material is still damp.
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To dry a localised spot of dampness caused by a leaking pipe etc, a desk fan may be used instead. The air movement causes much increased evaporation rate, and normally a house will handle the extra airborne water load without issue. Air movement also discourages mould growth while the material is still damp.
  
The fan run cost is similar to a dehumidifier running intermittently.
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For a desktop fan on low speed, run cost is similar to a dehumidifier running intermittently.
  
 
===Home made dehumidifier===
 
===Home made dehumidifier===
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===Heating & ventilation===
 
===Heating & ventilation===
Turning the heating up and opening the windows is not normally a cheaper option. A small 15kW heating system can use 15x24= 360kWh per day. @10p/unit electricity this is £36 per day, or at 3p/unit gas with 80% efficiency this is £13.50 a day. Medium and large heating systems would cost more. When comparing for temporary use, dont forget resale value of the dehumidifier
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Turning the heating up and opening the windows is not normally a cheaper option. Even a small 15kW [[heating]] system can use 15x24= 360kWh per day. @10p/unit electricity this is £36 per day, or at 3p/unit gas with 80% efficiency this is £13.50 a day. Medium and large heating systems would cost more. When comparing for temporary use, don't forget the resale value of the dehumidifier.
  
  

Revision as of 21:12, 18 December 2008

When should I use one?

When you need to reduce water vapour produced by showers, cooking or in bedrooms.

When damp is bad enough that it will take a while for the house to dry, and mould would present a health risk in the meantime.

When other practical measures have failed, or it is known they will not work.

When damp is severe.

In preference to external venting fans when the fresh air is not required. Fans have a higher total cost of ownership than a dehumidifier, due to throwing heat out of the building.

Deuhmidifiers are the standard method to dry a house after a flood

Dehumidifiers combat condensation, mould & rot. In most cases these are better tackled by sorting out the cause of the problem, but a minority of causes are intractable or impractical to resolve, and a dehumidifier can dramatically improve the situation.

A dehumidifier is a simple way to make damp cellars habitable.

Dehumidifiers are sometimes used for drying timber. This can be of use for species such as holly, which require quick drying. It can also be of use for drying large quantities of timber under cover.


Which model should I choose?

A standard compressor based unit is good for most tasks. For use in cold locations a desiccant wheel unit is needed, as compressor dehumidifiers are ineffective below about 12 deg C. Do not use the £5 units that are simply boxes of lime chips, these have so little effect as to be pointless.

For small and medium houses where damp is not severe, the smaller 200w models normally extract enough water. Note that a dehumidifier's water extraction rate is normally specified under different conditions than it sees in its end use, and real world extraction rate can be much less than specs indicate.

A humidistat is important, otherwise the RH is uncontrolled. This can result in woodwork warping, wasted electricity, and no ability to respond to the changing vapour load of cooking, shower use & occupancy. Humidistatic units cost more than the cheapest dehumidifiers, but this feature is a safeguard to avoid wood damage.

A mouldproof water tank is a good idea. Older units may lack this feature, and some types of mould can pose a health problem.

The ability to connect a continuous drain hose occasionally gets used, so this facility is a minor plus point even if you don't plan to use it initially.

Units with water tanks under a gallon are best avoided, as they require unnecessarily frequent emptying. A gallon tank should fill in anything from 1 day in severe damp to several days when used to dry a shower room.


How should I use it?

If using it to reduce overall house RH, set it to reduce RH slowly and gradually. Wood dries out slowly, and quick air RH reduction would cause a humidity gradient between the inside and outside of all woodwork. This can cause woodwork warping & cracking.

If using it to dry out shower rooms, set it so it just fails to come on during dry conditions in the room. An increase in RH should trigger it, and it will keep going until RH is back down to a normal dry level.

If using it to dry the whole house, its best to put it in the middle of the house to minimise the distance of any location from the unit, and thus maximise effectiveness and reduce RH variation.

If drying a very damp house, the use of large fans can increase air circulation and evaporation, and thus improve extraction rates. Severely damp buildings benefit from use of a larger 400w model.


What will it cost?

At time of writing, basic non humidistatic units go for around £100, and humidistatic units for around £150. Second hand units are much cheaper when available, but many are not humidistatic. Desiccant wheel units are much more expensive, despite being simpler.

There's no fitting cost, just plug it in.

Run cost depends on machine rating and amount of use. During summer the unit can be switched off and external ventilation used instead, and during winter any electricity used will become heat for the house. A typical unit might use 200w, and when used to dry a shower room be used for an hour a day. This is 0.2kWh a day, or approx 2p. A 200w dehumidifier running continuously day and night in a severely damp house would use around 40p a day, and release that electrical energy as heat into the house. Heat is also given up by the water vapour as it condenses, so the heat output is actually greater than the energy consumed. Total heat production is small, but the 200w is not wasted.

When using electric heating, the dh adds no run cost at all, as all its electricity becomes heat. With economy 7 type tariffs the dehumidifier can be set to run only at low tariff times using a timer.

When using gas heating, only part of the dh run cost is offset by reduced gas consumption, since electric heat costs more per unit than gas derived heat.

A dehumidifier is cheaper than an extractor fan because a fan throws a fair amount of heated air outside, costing higher heating bills.

Dessicant wheel dehumidifiers have in the region of twice the run cost of comparable compressor units.


Are there any cheaper options?

Fan

To dry a localised spot of dampness caused by a leaking pipe etc, a desk fan may be used instead. The air movement causes much increased evaporation rate, and normally a house will handle the extra airborne water load without issue. Air movement also discourages mould growth while the material is still damp.

For a desktop fan on low speed, run cost is similar to a dehumidifier running intermittently.

Home made dehumidifier

Desiccant wheel dehumidifiers are not particularly difficult to make, and the parts are simple and cheap. The high sale prices seem to be down to low sales volume more than anything else. However these are not a great choice for long term use in situations where a compressor unit would work, since they use a good deal more electricity.

Heating & ventilation

Turning the heating up and opening the windows is not normally a cheaper option. Even a small 15kW heating system can use 15x24= 360kWh per day. @10p/unit electricity this is £36 per day, or at 3p/unit gas with 80% efficiency this is £13.50 a day. Medium and large heating systems would cost more. When comparing for temporary use, don't forget the resale value of the dehumidifier.


Gotchas

Setting RH much too low or using a machine with no humidistat in very damp properties runs the risk of causing some wood damage.

If a dehumidifier has been tipped over, let it sit upright for a day before plugging in. Omitting this risks causing compressor failure.


See Also