Talk:Boiler repair

We could do with a collection of boiler-specific faults somewhere. This should probably be in an article of its own, but for the moment I'll use this as a notepad for snippets as they come in --John Stumbles 13:02, 23 February 2007 (GMT)

This lot looks good for an article already. No need to format it on the first go, its useful as is. Maybe 'Boiler Faults'? NT 09:14, 28 April 2007 (BST)

Keston C25 ignition failures

one common reason for this is the electrodes moving apart. Do not try and bend them back when cold. Someone here said that you can straighten an electrode when hot (hold in gas hob flame) but I've not tried this myself.

The biggest downside to Kestons seems to be parts availability

Ideal (Stelrad) Classic buzzing

fan, pcb (Stelrad 25b) or gas valve

* fans tend to buzz when the bearings have failed and it is no longer turning

* the gas valve tends to buzz because the relay on the pcb is buzzing because the drive circuit is faulty - not the most common problem with this pcb

* or you have an internal timer which has a faulty clutch - if so, is it losing time?

Ideal Response 120 losing water pressure

1. "Is the heat exchanger leaking yet?"
2. "How badly is it leaking now?"

Potterton Suprima locking out

PCB fault: replacement from CET Ltd

Note if Suprima has a red HT lead, it's a common reason for flame sense failure - it's carbon fibre, not wire and shouldn't be trusted

Potterton Combi 100 dead

Symptoms may include supply fuse/trip blown, burning smell and possibly burn marks or even hole in PCB

Modulation PCB fault: possibly replacement from CET Ltd

Baxi Barcelona

leaks

Ravenheat RS84F

• short cycling: cause unknown Screwfix forum
• thermistors "notorious" for unreliability

Ravenheat LS80

unreliable thermistors - can replace wet-pocket sensor p/n 0007TER05005/0 with clip-on p/n 0007son11010/0 (both cost over £20 + VAT!)

Icos / Isar / Istor boiler fault

fault not uncommon with this type of boiler gas valve.

l..f flashing

voltage at the gas valve on the conector (still connected) fine

negative vacuum on the venturi fine

connector is faulty: plug tight on gas valve pins but not making contact. Aparently this is common.

Icos / Isar / etc?

PCB fault which causes fuses to blow on supply cct (when DWH called for on Isar? also happens on Icos)

replace PCB module (complete with plastic shell).

Gloworm Fuelsaver F ... comes on and the flame kicks in for about 5-10 seconds and then goes out.

Fuelsaver - some have a problem - the fans have windings which are prone to overheating and a resettable thermal fuse which will cut out when the windings get hot (a matter of seconds to minutes) and close again when the windings cool down

Vokera Excell

• gas-news.co.uk archive
• uk.d-i-y

Baxi Barcelona

Discussion: Intermittent Ignition Lockout on uk.d-i-y

Generic parts in boilers

Could do with info on what parts of what boilers are replaceable by standard or generic parts.

• Diverter valve diaphragm repair kit from Banico (BES stock code 17115) is claimed to fit Giannoni and also Mutmacanica(?) valves. Checked OK for Worcester CDi.
• Many boilers use standard Grundfos (or other) pumps and one can just replace the heads (though on some - such as Potterton Performas - you can't, even though they look from the outside like standard Grundfos heads).

Must-also-replace parts

Some repairs involve replacing various O-rings, fibre washers etc. Would be good to know which, and if generics are OK.

Info, manuals etc on-line

Baxi-Potterton

• Baxi literature
• Potterton literature

Glow-Worm

• product literature

Worcester / Worcester-Bosch

• gas-fired boiler manuals
• Worcester 28i & 24i Installation & Servicing (not available from Worcester web site. NB manuals for both models are in this PDF.)

Ravenheat

• Inst & Serv Mans

Rename/split

The info currently in the article might belong better in 'Boiler types' or even 'how boilers work.' What do you think? NT 00:15, 10 September 2013 (BST)

Yup, slightly odd one this. It seems to be just the tail end of Ed's original piece. I think it would be useful as a "How boilers work" article. Also I think we should rescue all of the original article as well. I notice that Ed seems to have cancelled his Demon account, so all the source material pages have gone. Might be worth pulling them out of the wayback machine and sticking them here (his copyright expressly permits this is the attributions are kept)

The original for this article is here

Would be worth getting the gas fitting one as well and any other that we link to.

--John Rumm 15:41, 10 September 2013 (BST)