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(Explaination of and question on "What does it not do?" change.)
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--Dave Liquorice 10:47, 27 May 2007 (BST)
 
--Dave Liquorice 10:47, 27 May 2007 (BST)
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Re implications of use with frequency converters etc. Might be a bit beyond the scope of the article, what do you think?
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Oddly enough I reworded the bit about drills etc (and added a note about most being double isolated these days), at about 8pm... you must have been reading my mind! ;-)
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Re: the "will it cut the power to the drill when you drill into a cable..." question, I guess that would depend on if there is any way for current to flow from drill supply to chuck or vice versa. I expect (would hope) there is not, so I don't expect the drill circuit would trip.
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--[[User:John Rumm|John Rumm]] 03:13, 28 May 2007 (BST)

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As well as switchon surges there are bulb blowing surges, which can also pop RCDs. The momentary high current amplifies the less than perfect current balancing of real world RCDs plus cable capacitance has an unequal effect on current flow, since the L-E capacitance is across 0-330v while N-E is across close to zero voltage. NT 09:06, 26 May 2007 (BST)

Yup, there is lots more to go in the trip section. Personally I have never experienced bulbs taking out the RCD (MCBs certainly, and even rewireable fuses on occasion), but I expect this is far more likely on an already sensitised device. I must do some sums on stray capacitances dotted about, and see exactly how much influence they can actually make, before going overboard on these topics - I expect for most users of the article, the section on "tell me how to find and fix the problem" is going to be the most useful.

--John Rumm 16:25, 26 May 2007 (BST)

There is also something else missing, some RCDs are senstive to pulsateing DC faults and some not. You may wish to consider the content of this file http://hvacity.danfoss.com/pdf_files/rcd.pdf

Clarified the 2nd para of "What does it not do?". I had to read it two or three times before I worked out what it was saying. It also assumes that the drill body is conductive, many are plastic these days and double insulated. The drill bit and chuck would be live though.

Question: Will and RCD trip if its monitored live or neutral wires are connected to an unprotected supply. I suspect it might as some extra current will flow thus upsetting the current balance at the RCD. I agree that the RCD cannot disconnect the unprotected supply but it could cut the power to the drill, possibly misleading the user into thinking *all* power has been cut.

--Dave Liquorice 10:47, 27 May 2007 (BST)

Re implications of use with frequency converters etc. Might be a bit beyond the scope of the article, what do you think?

Oddly enough I reworded the bit about drills etc (and added a note about most being double isolated these days), at about 8pm... you must have been reading my mind! ;-)

Re: the "will it cut the power to the drill when you drill into a cable..." question, I guess that would depend on if there is any way for current to flow from drill supply to chuck or vice versa. I expect (would hope) there is not, so I don't expect the drill circuit would trip.

--John Rumm 03:13, 28 May 2007 (BST)