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In General

I'm aiming for an article that's succinct, informative and to the point.

For the inexperienced DIYer I've tried to give an idea that there are unexpected dangers and you need to develop a certain attitude to DIY safely.

Then I've started to assemble some subject-specific cut-to-the-chase guides and hints,

still need sections on

  • general power tool safety, specifics for
    • grinding wheels,
    • circular saws,
    • chain saws
  • safety wrt hot water and steam
  • chemicals
  • working at heights
  • lifting
  • excavations
  • ...
  • lifting (need pictures)
  • protective gear

--John Stumbles 10:52, 23 February 2007 (GMT)


I've used a single '=' as the first layer of the multilevel format here because using == does not give enough layers for the information presented. There is of course more info yet to come. NT 11:58, 22 February 2007 (GMT)

If we need 5 levels of heading I think something should be split off into an article of its own. Can we stick to mediawiki conventions on heading levels?

Start with 2 equals signs not 1 because 1 creates H1 tags which should be reserved for page title.

I don't know why this is but the mediawiki designers probably know more about this wiki engine than we do!

--John Stumbles 08:31, 23 February 2007 (GMT)


I've moved the following out of the article where they're empty place-holders or need fleshing out (in which case they should go in the to-do list above) or where they don't explain the actual safety issues (e.g. vinegar) or where they aren't about an issue likely to occur in DIY working (e.g. the well-water one - maybe that could go in an article on water supply systems?)


Power Tools

Drill Circular saw Chainsaw Holesaw Dremel


Hot Water

Hot water tank temperature



Hot header tanks

May soften and collapse


Pressurised water

(eg pressure washers)


Pigeon in tank etc

Backfeeding & double check valves


Well water is prone to a wide range of safety issues, and should always be tested before being used as potable water. The need for remedial treatment before consumption is routine.

Patio Cleaner


Oxalic acid


Vinegar is entirely innocent until used, but once it gets onto copper (or any copper alloy) it becomes saturated with copper salts. Copper is actully an essential nutrient in miniscule quantities, but the amounts found in copper cleaning runoff are enough to cause serious problems. Even vinegar can land you in trouble.


Screwing causes injuries too. See Screws

Method of lifting

Load Limits

Observe the Safe Working Load limits stamped on the ratings plate on your butt, don't exceed your rated values. This is sometimes difficult to read due to its location, in which case your load rating can be assessed by a doctor or physical therapist. Ratings may vary widely between different models of DIYer, so it is not always wise to make assumptions.

Exceeding the printed ratings may cause some of the zeros to fall off, leaving the DIYer unable to work. Although this damage can often be repaired by a body shop, the repair process is often long and costly, and in some cases the damage is permanent.

Nice one! Sadly, not really right for the article

--John Stumbles 08:31, 23 February 2007 (GMT)

I dont know why youve removed a lot of information about safety, specifically water, chemicals, vinegar, screws, and load limits. it is what the article is about after all. Dont know whats unclear about vinegar either... if you want to reach some kind of concensus it would help to explain. NT 17:42, 23 February 2007 (GMT)

This seems a bit inacurate "Drain cleaning chemicals are usually strongs acids or alkalis which are extremely dangerous" given that there are so few deaths from them. Walking up the stairs kills far more people. NT 17:45, 23 February 2007 (GMT)