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Talk ('discussion' tab) pages -- signatures

Appending your signature when you add a comment, particularly when replying to something already written, makes it easier to identify who's saying what, a la web forums. --John Stumbles 11:59, 16 December 2006 (GMT)

Here's a reply to the above --John Stumbles 12:11, 16 December 2006 (GMT)

It would be nice if the wiki kept track of threads and increased the indent for each reply but it doesn't seem to do that (although some users on wikipedia make it seem to do so using <blockquote>tags around their text</blockquote>). --John Stumbles 12:02, 16 December 2006 (GMT)

This quickly gets messy if you try to hand-craft multiple layers of indentation as you have to put your own <blockquote>tags</blockquote> before the closing </blockquote> you're replying to.
Kids: don't try this at home!

Trouble with category pages

I added a [[Category:Plumbing]] tag to the Plumbing page but when I followed the Category: link at the bottom of the page I got:

Editing Category:Plumbing
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You've followed a link to a page that doesn't exist yet. To create the
page, start typing in the box below (see the help page for more info). If
you are here by mistake, just click your browser's back button. Preview

Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data.
Please try again. If it still doesn't work, try logging out and logging
back in.

If I just 'Save page' with an empty page and again try to follow the link I get the same error. However if I create a page with some random text and save that I get correctly directed to the newly created Category page. I can then edit it and delete the random text, save again and I still get to the new page (which is what I want). Odd.

Deleting images

I uploaded a bunch of image files for an article then realised I didn't need some of them, but there doesn't seem to be any way to delete them.

They're shown in Special:Unusedimages

--John Stumbles 18:21, 3 January 2007 (GMT)

There are a few redundant articles could be deleted too. Whatever the method, it may be best to delete the how to after its been done! NT 19:14, 3 January 2007 (GMT)

Revert

How do you do a 'revert' then? Could be handy to know. NT 06:07, 4 February 2007 (GMT)

Go to history and find the version you want to go back to, go into edit and save it without making any changes to the text (but do fill in the Summary to say you're reverting it, and why, of course!)

--John Stumbles 12:15, 4 February 2007 (GMT)

Ohh - easy! Thanks. NT 22:08, 4 February 2007 (GMT)

DIY pages on wikipedia

There are some middling to bloody-awful DIY related pages on wikipedia which need some work:

Do_it_yourself could do with UK-ifying and putting in some decent links (like to here!)
DIY_culture
Handyperson <groan>

Naming & Capitalisation conventions

Some time ago I put in the Naming section:

When referring to one article from another it helps to have a consistent naming convention. Perhaps we should follow Wikipedia's naming convention [[1]] especially regarding capitalisation of article names and whether they should be in the singular or plural [[2]]

However no-one (least of all me :-)) seems to be doing that so maybe we should change this to reflect actual practice which seems to be to Capitalise All Initials and use plurals for subjects which are a class of things e.g. Round Tuits

I agree, for one reason or another it hasnt been followed, and its less confusing to stick with what we've got, so thats what I do for now. NT 05:27, 15 February 2007 (GMT)

OK I've changed it to reflect more-or-less what we've got now, although what we've got isn't consistent as to whether we capitalise all words in an article name or just the main ones, but wtf, life's too short :-)

--John Stumbles 11:25, 15 February 2007 (GMT)

Taking a local copy of the Wiki content

Don't let's everyone do this all the time for the sake of the server but this saves copies of most of the useful & interesting pages. It actually fetches all of the pages then throws away a lot which makes it not very server-friendly.

As well as HTML-formatted article pages it also keeps edit and version pages:

from edit pages you can re-create an article directly from the markup contained in the page's edit box.
version pages show the evolution of articles

 wget -w -r --convert-links http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk --reject '*&section=*','*=Special:*','*&diff=*'

The --convert-links option is supposed to make links within pages work as local copies but that doesn't seem to work for me: urls are of the form

 index.php?title=Article_Name

Maybe that has something to do with it?

The --reject option prevents wget keeping various pages [3]. The following arguments are regular expressions matching file names:

*&section=*: edit pages for sections of articles (only the edit page for the whole article is kept)

*=Special:*: [[Special:Specialpages|Special] pages

*&diff=*: diffs between versions

My wget version is

 GNU Wget 1.10.2

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